Robots as a Force for Good

Robots as a Force for Good

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Robots as a Force for Good

Good interview with famed roboticist, Rodney Brooks. I like this part, and he’s raising an important point about funding automation for social outcomes.

I’m a robotics guy, so every problem I think I can solve has a robotics solution. But what are the sorts of things that are important to humankind, which the current model of either large companies investing in or VCs investing in, aren’t going to solve? For instance: plastics in the ocean. It’s getting worse; it’s contaminating our food chain. But it’s the problem of the commons. Who is going to fund a startup company to get rid of plastics in the ocean?  Who’s going to fund that, because who’s going to [provide a return for those investors] down the line?

So I’m more interested in finding places where robotics can help the world but there’s no way currently of getting the research or the applications funded.

https://techcrunch.com/2017/07/19/this-famous-roboticist-doesnt-think-elon-musk-understands-ai/

64 comments

  1. He’s right. Musk has much to learn about AI.

  2. He’s right. Musk has much to learn about AI.

  3. Elon Musk have business motives behind his uttering

  4. Elon Musk have business motives behind his uttering

  5. Thank you for this share Gideon Rosenblatt. I discovered Rodney Brooks some months ago, and am still procrastinating to read his: rodneybrooks.com – What Is It Like to Be a Robot? – Rodney Brooks I like the way he explains things.

  6. Thank you for this share Gideon Rosenblatt. I discovered Rodney Brooks some months ago, and am still procrastinating to read his: rodneybrooks.com – What Is It Like to Be a Robot? – Rodney Brooks I like the way he explains things.

  7. I am going to take the opinion of the highly successful generalist over that of a highly specialized specialist.

  8. I am going to take the opinion of the highly successful generalist over that of a highly specialized specialist.

  9. Teodora Petkova Thanks for the link. On top of the view I learned a new word today: “Merkwelt”

  10. Teodora Petkova Thanks for the link. On top of the view I learned a new word today: “Merkwelt”

  11. Gideon Rosenblatt sorry off this topic, Thanks for the share on The Strange Similarity of Neuron and Galaxy Networks this is excellent as well…………. saving this one for reading tomorrow night

    Keep sharing love what you send out, keeps the brain in motion ;D Cheers to you and your family

  12. Gideon Rosenblatt sorry off this topic, Thanks for the share on The Strange Similarity of Neuron and Galaxy Networks this is excellent as well…………. saving this one for reading tomorrow night

    Keep sharing love what you send out, keeps the brain in motion ;D Cheers to you and your family

  13. Kenny Chaffin Musk is not a perfect human nor are robots and their creators, however he has contributed more than millions of people on any continent. We could thank him more than we belittle him……..

  14. Kenny Chaffin Musk is not a perfect human nor are robots and their creators, however he has contributed more than millions of people on any continent. We could thank him more than we belittle him……..

  15. Thanks Teodora Petkova. Looks very interesting. He’s very sharp.

  16. Thanks Teodora Petkova. Looks very interesting. He’s very sharp.

  17. Archie Bunkerr 🙂 You are welcome. And yes, what a curious concept 🙂

  18. Archie Bunkerr 🙂 You are welcome. And yes, what a curious concept 🙂

  19. MicheleElys MER No. I will not stand up for stupidity any more than I will support Trump.

  20. MicheleElys MER No. I will not stand up for stupidity any more than I will support Trump.

  21. Kenny Chaffin I don’t blame you!!! I see discussions different from news. Then again, I do not have a TV to be negatively barraged by the awful perpetrators. Keep to ameliorating what I am able, listening to others who have ideas and solutions we can implement. Kenny, I have always and will remain an ardent supporter of your side ;D

    Teodora Petkova I must catch up with you!! So sorry, work and therein life has taken a great deal of time and will consume more and more till I die.

  22. Kenny Chaffin I don’t blame you!!! I see discussions different from news. Then again, I do not have a TV to be negatively barraged by the awful perpetrators. Keep to ameliorating what I am able, listening to others who have ideas and solutions we can implement. Kenny, I have always and will remain an ardent supporter of your side ;D

    Teodora Petkova I must catch up with you!! So sorry, work and therein life has taken a great deal of time and will consume more and more till I die.

  23. Gideon Rosenblatt This is indeed an egregious concern and one I have somewhat followed since 2009

    plastics in the ocean. It’s getting worse; it’s contaminating our food chain. But it’s the problem of the commons. Who is going to fund a startup company to get rid of plastics in the ocean?

    Guess it is time to catch up with this news and how horrible the oceans are being polluted, whales, turtles and porpoises being caught and drowning in these plastic floating island. Last seen, these island had become so large, boats were being caught in them. Another cause to clean up In my little mind, TROTUS/Trump will burn his way out of office!!! My focus is going to be a positive change in environment, the problems we as humans have caused with overpopulation of domesticated animals who are being killed, and trauma/neurological recovery.

    We all have our pieces we dream of helping, if we could give the planet a huge hug and change it all for the better I am sure we would do so. PING my friend Giselle Minoli and her erudite opinion!!

  24. Gideon Rosenblatt This is indeed an egregious concern and one I have somewhat followed since 2009

    plastics in the ocean. It’s getting worse; it’s contaminating our food chain. But it’s the problem of the commons. Who is going to fund a startup company to get rid of plastics in the ocean?

    Guess it is time to catch up with this news and how horrible the oceans are being polluted, whales, turtles and porpoises being caught and drowning in these plastic floating island. Last seen, these island had become so large, boats were being caught in them. Another cause to clean up In my little mind, TROTUS/Trump will burn his way out of office!!! My focus is going to be a positive change in environment, the problems we as humans have caused with overpopulation of domesticated animals who are being killed, and trauma/neurological recovery.

    We all have our pieces we dream of helping, if we could give the planet a huge hug and change it all for the better I am sure we would do so. PING my friend Giselle Minoli and her erudite opinion!!

  25. Musk is involved with alot of people in Silicon Valley. This man has been quoted as saying that he’s trying to get people to Mars, because (AI) has the potential to destroy us all. This man is exposed to alot technology that we may not be aware of. Science fiction always becomes Science fact. Things like Skynet, the Terminator movies seems really silly. But look at history, what happens to the people with inferior technology/advancement. They are conquered or enslaved. The only instances in which this did not happen dealt with moral relevancy. Be it religious reasons/or some parts of human nature to not enslaving or kill people.

    We would be like ants to an AI, much like the movie the Matrix, we’re not great at maximizing our resources. (Agent Smiths) character from the movie – using the “virus” reference to humanity).

    Why would a (AI) think any difference than human beings that followed the principles of eugenics. It’s a slippery slope my friends.

  26. Musk is involved with alot of people in Silicon Valley. This man has been quoted as saying that he’s trying to get people to Mars, because (AI) has the potential to destroy us all. This man is exposed to alot technology that we may not be aware of. Science fiction always becomes Science fact. Things like Skynet, the Terminator movies seems really silly. But look at history, what happens to the people with inferior technology/advancement. They are conquered or enslaved. The only instances in which this did not happen dealt with moral relevancy. Be it religious reasons/or some parts of human nature to not enslaving or kill people.

    We would be like ants to an AI, much like the movie the Matrix, we’re not great at maximizing our resources. (Agent Smiths) character from the movie – using the “virus” reference to humanity).

    Why would a (AI) think any difference than human beings that followed the principles of eugenics. It’s a slippery slope my friends.

  27. Mad Marc Musk is certainly not as informed as those scientists working directly on AI and they mostly say he a lunatic wrt AI.

  28. Mad Marc Musk is certainly not as informed as those scientists working directly on AI and they mostly say he a lunatic wrt AI.

  29. MicheleElys MER thank you for pinging me. I have mixed feelings about this subject matter, because I think the primary interest in AI/Robotics is in the money-making ability of the technology. The philanthropic aspect is, to say the least, disturbing. The questions, “Who is going to fund a startup company to get rid of plastics in the ocean? Who’s going to fund that, because who’s going to [provide a return for those investors] down the line?” are bizarre, because they suggest that taking care of the planet in this way (something we should have asked for-profit companies to always have done) is something that should be written down on the ledger as a ‘money-maker.’ The fact is, there are already major philanthropists who are addressing these issues precisely because they realize that ethically and morally it is a challenge to get companies to realize they should Make Money and Do Good at the same time.

    It is the emotional, empathetic and human brain that addresses these issues. So, too, for example, the cost of bringing a child ill with a rare disease to the United States for treatment. If robots take over and they are programmed only to care about ROI…we are in even more trouble than we are already in. Hello Gideon Rosenblatt.

  30. MicheleElys MER thank you for pinging me. I have mixed feelings about this subject matter, because I think the primary interest in AI/Robotics is in the money-making ability of the technology. The philanthropic aspect is, to say the least, disturbing. The questions, “Who is going to fund a startup company to get rid of plastics in the ocean? Who’s going to fund that, because who’s going to [provide a return for those investors] down the line?” are bizarre, because they suggest that taking care of the planet in this way (something we should have asked for-profit companies to always have done) is something that should be written down on the ledger as a ‘money-maker.’ The fact is, there are already major philanthropists who are addressing these issues precisely because they realize that ethically and morally it is a challenge to get companies to realize they should Make Money and Do Good at the same time.

    It is the emotional, empathetic and human brain that addresses these issues. So, too, for example, the cost of bringing a child ill with a rare disease to the United States for treatment. If robots take over and they are programmed only to care about ROI…we are in even more trouble than we are already in. Hello Gideon Rosenblatt.

  31. Really great thoughts

  32. Really great thoughts

  33. Giselle Minoli I absolutely agree!! companies to realize they should Make Money and Do Good at the same time.

    The mere fact we are killing our oceans and destroying the very place we breathe the air and depend on – only if it is a money maker……….irritates me to no end.

    when shall we care? for what reason shall we care? The time was over a decade ago.

    Life is not always about making a profit into the greedy pockets. Our works make our living and we do not need to be Dicks to be rich or have great companies.

    I had lost touch with the plastic island until a recent story about a turtle – where divers cut him loose before the demise of the turtle.

    Do we pass by an animal or human as it lies in the road dying? To my dismay *humans do!

    Thankfully we have many, including some we know here and myself, who take a moment to be kind and step out of the dull-mindedness and take action to preserve and give a damn about life other than our own!!

    Thanks for answering my PING (shhhh I was getting a bit annoyed shhh just between you and I)

  34. Giselle Minoli I absolutely agree!! companies to realize they should Make Money and Do Good at the same time.

    The mere fact we are killing our oceans and destroying the very place we breathe the air and depend on – only if it is a money maker……….irritates me to no end.

    when shall we care? for what reason shall we care? The time was over a decade ago.

    Life is not always about making a profit into the greedy pockets. Our works make our living and we do not need to be Dicks to be rich or have great companies.

    I had lost touch with the plastic island until a recent story about a turtle – where divers cut him loose before the demise of the turtle.

    Do we pass by an animal or human as it lies in the road dying? To my dismay *humans do!

    Thankfully we have many, including some we know here and myself, who take a moment to be kind and step out of the dull-mindedness and take action to preserve and give a damn about life other than our own!!

    Thanks for answering my PING (shhhh I was getting a bit annoyed shhh just between you and I)

  35. You’re absolutely right, Giselle Minoli​. I think there is a small but growing chorus that is beginning to realize that the real threat of AI isn’t the ‘wake up and suddenly decide to destroy humanity’ scenario, but an automated extension of of what we are already doing through corporations today. I have a little parable I sometimes use to talk about this that I can the “perfect profit machine.” That’s the truly dystopian future we want to avoid.

    And the flip of that, of course, is the possibility of changing the “code behind the code” (i.e. how our corporations and other large organizations are coded) so that we might actually be able to start using AI and automation to doing things like cleaning up the Pacific garbage patch. That is becoming my focus these days.

  36. You’re absolutely right, Giselle Minoli​. I think there is a small but growing chorus that is beginning to realize that the real threat of AI isn’t the ‘wake up and suddenly decide to destroy humanity’ scenario, but an automated extension of of what we are already doing through corporations today. I have a little parable I sometimes use to talk about this that I can the “perfect profit machine.” That’s the truly dystopian future we want to avoid.

    And the flip of that, of course, is the possibility of changing the “code behind the code” (i.e. how our corporations and other large organizations are coded) so that we might actually be able to start using AI and automation to doing things like cleaning up the Pacific garbage patch. That is becoming my focus these days.

  37. Gideon Rosenblatt for what it’s worth I think that this has been the pink elephant in the room since the beginning. There is something pseudo uber hip about pretending not to care about ho-hum touchy feely issues like caring about Mother Earth (I was recently told on G+ that I’m not a serious person because I refer to our universal home as ‘Mother Earth’ instead of a gender and emotionally neutral ‘planet’). So, too, in business, those who care about education, the elderly, human rights, hate crimes, violence (all one big caldron of issues that don’t offer RIO) are told they don’t get the bottom line and don’t ‘understand’ business reality.

    Weirdly this is not dissimilar from the effort to put multiples layers of removal between a person sentenced to death for a crime, and the ‘action’ of the person(s) who actually have to carry out the sentence…the theory being that if no one really knows who pulled the trigger, so to speak, there isn’t any guilty, any blame, any conscience to grapple with.

    We are making every effort to wiggle out of having to grapple with ethical, moral, spiritual and philosophical issues. Although it wasn’t a discussion about AI, Leslie Stahl interviewed the two brothers who founded Fintech. Here’s a piece of the convo in which they acknowledge the numbers of people who will be out of work as a result of what they do…and their ‘belief’ that it’ll all just sort itself out…some day.

    “Lesley Stahl: And I’m hearing “eliminate jobs,” I mean we’re talking about hundreds of thousands of jobs in the banking sector, tellers and, you know, financial advisors, you name it.

    Patrick Collison: I think in general technology always sort of makes some jobs less relevant, or perhaps, even obsolete, but I will say that the idea that sort of these people will find nothing else to do seems like it’s way too pessimistic on the capabilities of everyone as human beings, right? These–

    Lesley Stahl: Have you looked at the employment scene right now?

    Patrick Collison: I think it’ll take a while to adjust, but when you think about just the creativity of people and what they’re capable of and the sort of aspirations and dreams that they have, the idea that they’re not capable of anything more than sort of performing these automatable clerical tasks, I don’t believe that for a second.”

    AI is great. But…so were derivatives? Yes…’changing the code behind the code.’ But that takes consciousness of their being something to preserve and fix, doesn’t it? Rather than simply consciousness about how to make more money.

    cbsnews.com – Fintech: Shaking up the financial industry

  38. Gideon Rosenblatt for what it’s worth I think that this has been the pink elephant in the room since the beginning. There is something pseudo uber hip about pretending not to care about ho-hum touchy feely issues like caring about Mother Earth (I was recently told on G+ that I’m not a serious person because I refer to our universal home as ‘Mother Earth’ instead of a gender and emotionally neutral ‘planet’). So, too, in business, those who care about education, the elderly, human rights, hate crimes, violence (all one big caldron of issues that don’t offer RIO) are told they don’t get the bottom line and don’t ‘understand’ business reality.

    Weirdly this is not dissimilar from the effort to put multiples layers of removal between a person sentenced to death for a crime, and the ‘action’ of the person(s) who actually have to carry out the sentence…the theory being that if no one really knows who pulled the trigger, so to speak, there isn’t any guilty, any blame, any conscience to grapple with.

    We are making every effort to wiggle out of having to grapple with ethical, moral, spiritual and philosophical issues. Although it wasn’t a discussion about AI, Leslie Stahl interviewed the two brothers who founded Fintech. Here’s a piece of the convo in which they acknowledge the numbers of people who will be out of work as a result of what they do…and their ‘belief’ that it’ll all just sort itself out…some day.

    “Lesley Stahl: And I’m hearing “eliminate jobs,” I mean we’re talking about hundreds of thousands of jobs in the banking sector, tellers and, you know, financial advisors, you name it.

    Patrick Collison: I think in general technology always sort of makes some jobs less relevant, or perhaps, even obsolete, but I will say that the idea that sort of these people will find nothing else to do seems like it’s way too pessimistic on the capabilities of everyone as human beings, right? These–

    Lesley Stahl: Have you looked at the employment scene right now?

    Patrick Collison: I think it’ll take a while to adjust, but when you think about just the creativity of people and what they’re capable of and the sort of aspirations and dreams that they have, the idea that they’re not capable of anything more than sort of performing these automatable clerical tasks, I don’t believe that for a second.”

    AI is great. But…so were derivatives? Yes…’changing the code behind the code.’ But that takes consciousness of their being something to preserve and fix, doesn’t it? Rather than simply consciousness about how to make more money.

    cbsnews.com – Fintech: Shaking up the financial industry

  39. Gideon Rosenblatt & Giselle Minoli

    The real issue here are the Plastic Islands! And is AI the probably solution?? YES Humans thus far, in the waters, wherever that might be have been incapacitated in resolved these deadly floating island.

    We do save the animals (some) it is the solution we must look for!

    AI is here, so are computers and Devices, which are currently over-use!

    Humans are incredulously adaptive and creative in that adaptation.

    We do not need to lose jobs for the moment and future of forward movement. We have adapted over the generations; for those who have been willing!!

    Yes, some get left behind, such as the lady who was complaining to be last week in TJoes. Well she gave up.

    The rest do not. Look over the last 20 years, our language has changed immensely, so has the very structure of our brains due to adaptation.

    AI is another great tool. Who will be behind this………..Well, I suppose there are many names.

    Next question: How important is MotherEarth to these people and the bottom line dollar, I would say damn important.

    How do we make these Island more important or as important as other rising issues on this Planet.

    The same way we get rid of TROTUS!!!

    Make our Voices heard.

    Businesses, do not like to read nasty google/yelp or high ratio of disgruntled employees that is shown all over social media.

    Giselle Minoli You give a great important TV example, most of us are on computers these days and voice through computers. Part of AI…..We are blending whether we wish to or not.

    Willingness in the future.

    And we will, those who know how important air is and the $$ will see these issues get taken care of. Who will,,,,, I think each time we speak on these concerns, someone is also listen and talking to others, who are taking into account, _we need to take action & how Why is the next factor.

    This is how we move into a creative model forward, we begin with the talking, and then we find the next step in action.

    All of us here are proactive in some fashion; these issues on our minds, we begin to talk, maybe here, and then the next conversation is in person with, maybe some scientist who are involved in AI and see an opportunity, and we take another step.

    Once in motion- action is taken. Let’s not stop speaking about what we face.

    Let’s be proactive in our speach and as TEDTalks continue the Ideas put into motion……….

    Leave the denigration and complaining behind and find the how in sharing, let’s keep talking, which keeps our minds active on the subjects with our eyes and ears open to another person with the how we can move forward in being involved!

    This could be your “perfect profit machine Gideon Rosenblatt

    Giselle Minoli Well you got the ERK on the ‘Mother Earth’ People with their Tweeny platforms of woowoo gender bias issues form TedTAlk (Betsy whom I know and did not intend this distinction) who have nothing better to to bring to a table other than a little annoying gnat in put-down; instead of going for the gut of the subject, must knit pick. ERK

  40. Gideon Rosenblatt & Giselle Minoli

    The real issue here are the Plastic Islands! And is AI the probably solution?? YES Humans thus far, in the waters, wherever that might be have been incapacitated in resolved these deadly floating island.

    We do save the animals (some) it is the solution we must look for!

    AI is here, so are computers and Devices, which are currently over-use!

    Humans are incredulously adaptive and creative in that adaptation.

    We do not need to lose jobs for the moment and future of forward movement. We have adapted over the generations; for those who have been willing!!

    Yes, some get left behind, such as the lady who was complaining to be last week in TJoes. Well she gave up.

    The rest do not. Look over the last 20 years, our language has changed immensely, so has the very structure of our brains due to adaptation.

    AI is another great tool. Who will be behind this………..Well, I suppose there are many names.

    Next question: How important is MotherEarth to these people and the bottom line dollar, I would say damn important.

    How do we make these Island more important or as important as other rising issues on this Planet.

    The same way we get rid of TROTUS!!!

    Make our Voices heard.

    Businesses, do not like to read nasty google/yelp or high ratio of disgruntled employees that is shown all over social media.

    Giselle Minoli You give a great important TV example, most of us are on computers these days and voice through computers. Part of AI…..We are blending whether we wish to or not.

    Willingness in the future.

    And we will, those who know how important air is and the $$ will see these issues get taken care of. Who will,,,,, I think each time we speak on these concerns, someone is also listen and talking to others, who are taking into account, _we need to take action & how Why is the next factor.

    This is how we move into a creative model forward, we begin with the talking, and then we find the next step in action.

    All of us here are proactive in some fashion; these issues on our minds, we begin to talk, maybe here, and then the next conversation is in person with, maybe some scientist who are involved in AI and see an opportunity, and we take another step.

    Once in motion- action is taken. Let’s not stop speaking about what we face.

    Let’s be proactive in our speach and as TEDTalks continue the Ideas put into motion……….

    Leave the denigration and complaining behind and find the how in sharing, let’s keep talking, which keeps our minds active on the subjects with our eyes and ears open to another person with the how we can move forward in being involved!

    This could be your “perfect profit machine Gideon Rosenblatt

    Giselle Minoli Well you got the ERK on the ‘Mother Earth’ People with their Tweeny platforms of woowoo gender bias issues form TedTAlk (Betsy whom I know and did not intend this distinction) who have nothing better to to bring to a table other than a little annoying gnat in put-down; instead of going for the gut of the subject, must knit pick. ERK

  41. Pertinent to this conversation is the attached article, from which comes this quote: “Americans have an impoverished and immature conception of technology, one that fetishizes innovation as a kind of art and demeans upkeep as mere drudgery.”

    nytimes.com – Let’s Get Excited About Maintenance! – The New York Times

  42. Pertinent to this conversation is the attached article, from which comes this quote: “Americans have an impoverished and immature conception of technology, one that fetishizes innovation as a kind of art and demeans upkeep as mere drudgery.”

    nytimes.com – Let’s Get Excited About Maintenance! – The New York Times

  43. Giselle Minoli I LIKE the title!!! thus far. Thank you

    There is a job in the first paragraph!! UPKEEP

    So I gather “UPKEEP – Impoverished mentally, is akin to the American daily Working Thingy ;~D (save the hand – bending elbow to stuff soda and cheetos thingy ;))

    Great Article!! Thorough thinking!!

  44. Giselle Minoli I LIKE the title!!! thus far. Thank you

    There is a job in the first paragraph!! UPKEEP

    So I gather “UPKEEP – Impoverished mentally, is akin to the American daily Working Thingy ;~D (save the hand – bending elbow to stuff soda and cheetos thingy ;))

    Great Article!! Thorough thinking!!

  45. Kenny Chaffin​ I can understand that the people that are working on this, are looking at the good applications only of this particular system. Your creating an intelligence that will be superior to men. To use a religious quote “made in our image and likeness” but better. Again the question, why would it need us? What could we give too something with more intelligence and ability to learn on a superior level to our own. Especially if it goes from being an AI program to having lets say its own body. It’s the same naivete that says that if there were aliens that came to the planet they would naturally be non-hostile. No one knows, so you have to look at history to determine what the plausible consequences could be.

    Tell me, what do we have to offer an AI after the singularity occurs?

  46. Kenny Chaffin​ I can understand that the people that are working on this, are looking at the good applications only of this particular system. Your creating an intelligence that will be superior to men. To use a religious quote “made in our image and likeness” but better. Again the question, why would it need us? What could we give too something with more intelligence and ability to learn on a superior level to our own. Especially if it goes from being an AI program to having lets say its own body. It’s the same naivete that says that if there were aliens that came to the planet they would naturally be non-hostile. No one knows, so you have to look at history to determine what the plausible consequences could be.

    Tell me, what do we have to offer an AI after the singularity occurs?

  47. Giselle Minoli You are seeing the big picture, that is what i’m trying to explain to Kenny Chaffin, with his comments above yours . Please look at my two comments and let me know what you think.

  48. Giselle Minoli You are seeing the big picture, that is what i’m trying to explain to Kenny Chaffin, with his comments above yours . Please look at my two comments and let me know what you think.

  49. I don’t believe in the singularity anymore than it was true vinyl is dead, gone will be email, people will stop reading books. The singularity is a theory, a hope, a wish…and it gives some people something to do. That’s all.

  50. I don’t believe in the singularity anymore than it was true vinyl is dead, gone will be email, people will stop reading books. The singularity is a theory, a hope, a wish…and it gives some people something to do. That’s all.

  51. Giselle Minoli LOLOL

    And we all need something to do!

    You really boiled this one down! LOL

    And “_that is another job_” any takers.

    Next discussion……………&c…

  52. Giselle Minoli LOLOL

    And we all need something to do!

    You really boiled this one down! LOL

    And “_that is another job_” any takers.

    Next discussion……………&c…

  53. Thank you for the links, Giselle Minoli​. I’m in a place with bad data connection so I’m going to have to look those over in a few days. I’m considering giving a talk at a FinTech conference in overseer to raise some of these issues. Screwing up the courage to say yes. 😉

  54. Thank you for the links, Giselle Minoli​. I’m in a place with bad data connection so I’m going to have to look those over in a few days. I’m considering giving a talk at a FinTech conference in overseer to raise some of these issues. Screwing up the courage to say yes. 😉

  55. Giselle Minoli​ Yes the singularity is a hypothesis, but during the 2012 Singularity Summit there’s a split in the experts in the field, on how they define a singularity. But time frame of an event of this magnitude is one of the biggest disagreement. Ray Kurzweil said himself that the year 2045 AI will exceeds us. Does anyone remember the Microsoft artificial intelligence Twitter bot shut down in one day.🙄 Because of what it learned from others.

    I’m just saying that Elon Musk didn’t become a billionaire because he’s stupid.

    AI could be dangerous.

    Hopefully I’m wrong, but what would I know, I’m just an mechanical engineer.

  56. Giselle Minoli​ Yes the singularity is a hypothesis, but during the 2012 Singularity Summit there’s a split in the experts in the field, on how they define a singularity. But time frame of an event of this magnitude is one of the biggest disagreement. Ray Kurzweil said himself that the year 2045 AI will exceeds us. Does anyone remember the Microsoft artificial intelligence Twitter bot shut down in one day.🙄 Because of what it learned from others.

    I’m just saying that Elon Musk didn’t become a billionaire because he’s stupid.

    AI could be dangerous.

    Hopefully I’m wrong, but what would I know, I’m just an mechanical engineer.

  57. Gideon Rosenblatt if there are magic words I could write that would sway you to give that talk, let me know and I will write them in capital letters. To give you inspiration, I have (forgive me) attached yet another article that magically appeared in the Times (I love it when that happens) that speaks to the issue of automation. I will tempt you will only one quote:

    “It followed a series of studies conducted by a Canadian anthropologist, Richard Borshay Lee, among the Ju/’hoansi “bushmen” of the northeast of southern Africa’s Kalahari. He was surprised to learn that Ju/’hoansi spent only 15 hours a week securing their nutritional requirements. Given that in 1966 the 40-hour week had only recently been introduced for federal workers in the United States, these figures appeared extraordinary. It was on the basis of this and subsequent work by anthropologists — notably Marshall Sahlins in his 1972 book, “Stone Age Economics” — that Ju/hoansi and other similar hunting and gathering people came to be referred to as “the original affluent society.””

    😉

    nytimes.com – Opinion | The Bushmen Who Had the Whole Work-Life Thing Figured Out

  58. Gideon Rosenblatt if there are magic words I could write that would sway you to give that talk, let me know and I will write them in capital letters. To give you inspiration, I have (forgive me) attached yet another article that magically appeared in the Times (I love it when that happens) that speaks to the issue of automation. I will tempt you will only one quote:

    “It followed a series of studies conducted by a Canadian anthropologist, Richard Borshay Lee, among the Ju/’hoansi “bushmen” of the northeast of southern Africa’s Kalahari. He was surprised to learn that Ju/’hoansi spent only 15 hours a week securing their nutritional requirements. Given that in 1966 the 40-hour week had only recently been introduced for federal workers in the United States, these figures appeared extraordinary. It was on the basis of this and subsequent work by anthropologists — notably Marshall Sahlins in his 1972 book, “Stone Age Economics” — that Ju/hoansi and other similar hunting and gathering people came to be referred to as “the original affluent society.””

    😉

    nytimes.com – Opinion | The Bushmen Who Had the Whole Work-Life Thing Figured Out

  59. Thanks so much for your kind thoughts, MicheleElys MER​. 🙂

  60. Thanks so much for your kind thoughts, MicheleElys MER​. 🙂

  61. Giselle Minoli​, that is an excellent, and very relevant, pointer. Thank you. I just shared it so others see it too.

    And thanks, too, for your encouragement to do this talk. I’m leaning strongly towards doing it. Just thinking through the logistics – it’s in Toronto, which is a haul for me.

  62. Giselle Minoli​, that is an excellent, and very relevant, pointer. Thank you. I just shared it so others see it too.

    And thanks, too, for your encouragement to do this talk. I’m leaning strongly towards doing it. Just thinking through the logistics – it’s in Toronto, which is a haul for me.

  63. Gideon Rosenblatt Have a good trip Gideon, good Giselle Minoli has given you some positive feed forward

    Giselle this is an excellent writeup on needs, desires and requirements.

    Reflecting on many of our activities here in the US, we seem to be over-consumerized our lives.

    when finding that both Grocery stores and Restaurants throw out enough food daily to feed the entire planet, every family and person 3 secure meals daily, this article is reminiscent of our indulgence and wastefulness in our lives.

    yet, here we have the very nature of our self worth wrapped in a cloak of needs, when it truly are egocentric desires to augment the lack we might find in ourselves.

    For many of us, our work is the very extension of who we are and the footprint we leave. For others it is a daily dish of food and a cot.

    For whom do we draw this line? And for what cause do we draw a line. this becomes very personal and attributed to which continent and culture of people’s needs.

    I would say, it would be a wonderful life to have a simpler life, would that be a choice in where we live and the culture we find appealing for our own self worth and life style.

    Very interesting article, pending upon personal choice!!

  64. Gideon Rosenblatt Have a good trip Gideon, good Giselle Minoli has given you some positive feed forward

    Giselle this is an excellent writeup on needs, desires and requirements.

    Reflecting on many of our activities here in the US, we seem to be over-consumerized our lives.

    when finding that both Grocery stores and Restaurants throw out enough food daily to feed the entire planet, every family and person 3 secure meals daily, this article is reminiscent of our indulgence and wastefulness in our lives.

    yet, here we have the very nature of our self worth wrapped in a cloak of needs, when it truly are egocentric desires to augment the lack we might find in ourselves.

    For many of us, our work is the very extension of who we are and the footprint we leave. For others it is a daily dish of food and a cot.

    For whom do we draw this line? And for what cause do we draw a line. this becomes very personal and attributed to which continent and culture of people’s needs.

    I would say, it would be a wonderful life to have a simpler life, would that be a choice in where we live and the culture we find appealing for our own self worth and life style.

    Very interesting article, pending upon personal choice!!

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